Discussion:
Fuse Spam Filter?
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tpd
2004-05-11 07:21:03 UTC
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Is anyone happy with Fuse spam filtering? Today I had 95 emails in my
inbox. Once I deleted the obvious spam via WebMail I had 54 legit
messages. The junk was very easy to identify at a glance as spam.
There must be a better way to keep this stuff off the users machines.

I have found an excellent, free (open source?) spam filter called K9.
It just marks the subject line as spam which lets you set up a filter
and a spam folder. I have been running it for a couple of months an I'm
up to 94.7% accuracy and not one false positive. Not too bad if you
must filter on the client side. And it works with Thunderbird unlike
many of the Outlook/Outlook Express focused products.

Get K9 at: http://keir.net/k9.html

Why can't Fuse and BrightMail come close? Are they that afraid of false
positives?

Cheers-

Tom
JWP
2004-05-11 14:46:16 UTC
Permalink
Now that Fuse/Zoomtown has removed the filtered mail directory from the Web
Mail system, I personally don't want Fuses filters to be real picky. It
would only take a couple of my e-bills or mail order pharmacy notifications
being filtered out and DELETED WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE or any way to recover
them to get me to leave Fuse. If they would make the filtering as tight as a
lot of people would like and legit emails like the ones I mentioned earlier
would get deleted as spam I think Fuse and Zoontown would be responsible for
paying any late fees it caused and could be open to other legal liability
depending on what was contained in the messages that were not delivered.

The spam that does get through (and there is a lot of it, I know) is similar
to the junk mail and ads that come to my snail mail mailboxes. Why don't we
all demand that the post office open and read all our snail mail and just
through away anything they think is junk mail based on the return address or
text content?

You said that the spam filter on your system is 94.7% accurate so the
remaining 5.3% that does get through is not that bad and to me it's not
worth having some other person or software program make a decision for me
that could cause me a lot of trouble or expense.
Post by tpd
Is anyone happy with Fuse spam filtering? Today I had 95 emails in my
inbox. Once I deleted the obvious spam via WebMail I had 54 legit
messages. The junk was very easy to identify at a glance as spam.
There must be a better way to keep this stuff off the users machines.
I have found an excellent, free (open source?) spam filter called K9.
It just marks the subject line as spam which lets you set up a filter
and a spam folder. I have been running it for a couple of months an I'm
up to 94.7% accuracy and not one false positive. Not too bad if you
must filter on the client side. And it works with Thunderbird unlike
many of the Outlook/Outlook Express focused products.
Get K9 at: http://keir.net/k9.html
Why can't Fuse and BrightMail come close? Are they that afraid of false
positives?
Cheers-
Tom
c***@jimbeatty.com
2004-05-11 15:06:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by JWP
Now that Fuse/Zoomtown has removed the filtered mail directory from the Web
Mail system, I personally don't want Fuses filters to be real picky. It
would only take a couple of my e-bills or mail order pharmacy notifications
being filtered out and DELETED WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE or any way to recover
them to get me to leave Fuse. If they would make the filtering as tight as a
lot of people would like and legit emails like the ones I mentioned earlier
would get deleted as spam I think Fuse and Zoontown would be responsible for
paying any late fees it caused and could be open to other legal liability
depending on what was contained in the messages that were not delivered.
Preach it, Brother JW! This section of the choir is right with you...

Give me back a "Filtered Mail" folder and/or the ability to disable
spam filtering altogether - then Fuse can be as strict as they want to
be in their spam filtering approach.

Jim

PS to Tom - If you're at 94.7% on K9, you need to add some blacklist
rules of your own. Whitelist all your friends, family, and subscribed
lists, and you'll be above 98% in no time. Download a regex package
and create some heavy-duty blacklist rules and you'll be near 100%
accuracy. :)
Viper
2004-05-11 15:20:26 UTC
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Fuse needs to have the spam filter back on but have it to where users can
control what gets deleted and not and to be able to create rules to filter
out the spam. I get about 50 spam messages a day only 10 e-mail messages are
ones I keep. That is pretty bad. The Can Spam act is not working hard
enough.
Post by c***@jimbeatty.com
Post by JWP
Now that Fuse/Zoomtown has removed the filtered mail directory from the Web
Mail system, I personally don't want Fuses filters to be real picky. It
would only take a couple of my e-bills or mail order pharmacy
notifications
Post by c***@jimbeatty.com
Post by JWP
being filtered out and DELETED WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE or any way to recover
them to get me to leave Fuse. If they would make the filtering as tight as a
lot of people would like and legit emails like the ones I mentioned earlier
would get deleted as spam I think Fuse and Zoontown would be responsible for
paying any late fees it caused and could be open to other legal liability
depending on what was contained in the messages that were not delivered.
Preach it, Brother JW! This section of the choir is right with you...
Give me back a "Filtered Mail" folder and/or the ability to disable
spam filtering altogether - then Fuse can be as strict as they want to
be in their spam filtering approach.
Jim
PS to Tom - If you're at 94.7% on K9, you need to add some blacklist
rules of your own. Whitelist all your friends, family, and subscribed
lists, and you'll be above 98% in no time. Download a regex package
and create some heavy-duty blacklist rules and you'll be near 100%
accuracy. :)
ShadowWalker
2004-05-11 22:15:32 UTC
Permalink
Viper softly, enticingly, whispered to the electronic winds these
Post by Viper
Fuse needs to have the spam filter back on but have it to where
users can control what gets deleted and not and to be able to
create rules to filter out the spam. I get about 50 spam messages
a day only 10 e-mail messages are ones I keep. That is pretty bad.
The Can Spam act is not working hard enough.
Post by c***@jimbeatty.com
Post by JWP
Now that Fuse/Zoomtown has removed the filtered mail directory
from the Web Mail system, I personally don't want Fuses filters
to be real picky. It would only take a couple of my e-bills or
mail order pharmacy notifications being filtered out and DELETED
WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE or any way to recover them to get me to
leave Fuse. If they would make the filtering as tight as a lot
of people would like and legit emails like the ones I mentioned
earlier would get deleted as spam I think Fuse and Zoontown
would be responsible for paying any late fees it caused and
could be open to other legal liability depending on what was
contained in the messages that were not delivered.
Preach it, Brother JW! This section of the choir is right with you...
Give me back a "Filtered Mail" folder and/or the ability to
disable spam filtering altogether - then Fuse can be as strict as
they want to be in their spam filtering approach.
Jim
PS to Tom - If you're at 94.7% on K9, you need to add some
blacklist rules of your own. Whitelist all your friends, family,
and subscribed lists, and you'll be above 98% in no time.
Download a regex package and create some heavy-duty blacklist
rules and you'll be near 100% accuracy. :)
Frankly, I'd rather not have anyone other than me filter my mail. Or
at least give us the choice. This attitude of we're doing it for
your own good really ticks me off.

Personally I use Pegasus for my e-mail client, and I have only
had two spam e-mails make it through my filters in close to a year;
I did a two month test run before going live with no false positives
at all. I've only been with Fuse for 2 months now, and since
Roadrunner doesn't do *ANYTHING* right, I think that's pretty good.

Give *me* the choice.

ShadowWalker/Ron
--
"Information Superhighway is really an acronym for 'Interactive
Network For Organizing, Retrieving, Manipulating, Accessing And
Transferring Information On National Systems, Unleashing Practically
Every Rebellious Human Intelligence, Gratifying Hackers, Wiseacres,
And Yahoos'."
- Keven Kwaku

SPAM deleted at server -
Don't bother sending it 'cause I ain't gonna see it.
tpd
2004-05-13 22:58:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by ShadowWalker
Viper softly, enticingly, whispered to the electronic winds these
Post by Viper
Fuse needs to have the spam filter back on but have it to where
users can control what gets deleted and not and to be able to
create rules to filter out the spam. I get about 50 spam messages
a day only 10 e-mail messages are ones I keep. That is pretty bad.
The Can Spam act is not working hard enough.
Post by c***@jimbeatty.com
Post by JWP
Now that Fuse/Zoomtown has removed the filtered mail directory
from the Web Mail system, I personally don't want Fuses filters
to be real picky. It would only take a couple of my e-bills or
mail order pharmacy notifications being filtered out and DELETED
WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE or any way to recover them to get me to
leave Fuse. If they would make the filtering as tight as a lot
of people would like and legit emails like the ones I mentioned
earlier would get deleted as spam I think Fuse and Zoontown
would be responsible for paying any late fees it caused and
could be open to other legal liability depending on what was
contained in the messages that were not delivered.
Preach it, Brother JW! This section of the choir is right with you...
Give me back a "Filtered Mail" folder and/or the ability to
disable spam filtering altogether - then Fuse can be as strict as
they want to be in their spam filtering approach.
Jim
PS to Tom - If you're at 94.7% on K9, you need to add some
blacklist rules of your own. Whitelist all your friends, family,
and subscribed lists, and you'll be above 98% in no time.
Download a regex package and create some heavy-duty blacklist
rules and you'll be near 100% accuracy. :)
Frankly, I'd rather not have anyone other than me filter my mail. Or
at least give us the choice. This attitude of we're doing it for
your own good really ticks me off.
Personally I use Pegasus for my e-mail client, and I have only
had two spam e-mails make it through my filters in close to a year;
I did a two month test run before going live with no false positives
at all. I've only been with Fuse for 2 months now, and since
Roadrunner doesn't do *ANYTHING* right, I think that's pretty good.
Give *me* the choice.
ShadowWalker/Ron
You all make very good points... It is just so frustrating to see the
same crap in my inbox every day. I use WebMail at work every day (don't
tell the boss!) and that is where it is the most annoying. For a while
I was reporting all the spam. But I open each message in a new browser
window to avoid having to reload my inbox each time and forwarding 50-70
spams a day got old.

I have had the same email address since switching to Fuse when Zoomtown
was rolled out and I'm not at the point where I am willing to change it.
So I'll just keep fine tuning K-9 and sticking pins in my spamer
voodoo doll.

Cheers-

Tom
ShadowWalker
2004-05-13 23:51:42 UTC
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tpd softly, enticingly, whispered to the electronic winds these
Post by tpd
You all make very good points... It is just so frustrating to see
the same crap in my inbox every day. I use WebMail at work every
day (don't tell the boss!) and that is where it is the most
annoying. For a while I was reporting all the spam. But I open
each message in a new browser window to avoid having to reload my
inbox each time and forwarding 50-70 spams a day got old.
I have had the same email address since switching to Fuse when
Zoomtown was rolled out and I'm not at the point where I am
willing to change it.
So I'll just keep fine tuning K-9 and sticking pins in my
spamer
voodoo doll.
Cheers-
Tom
There is another option as well. You have 5 mailboxes with Fuse.
Never use your master account; it's difficult to change, and that
way if you HAVE to you'll know whatever is in there is important.
Use one for personal mail, and DON'T post it anywhere, and use the
other three for other things (I have one for mailing lists, one for
resumes, and one for Usenet [with appropriate spam guards].) That
way, if you do have to change an addy, you won't be as attached to
it, and it gives you another level of control over what you retrieve
and when.

I also have a web account with mail forwarding and filters. Anytime
I'm worried about spam, I just use that account and then if junk
rolls in, I just block it at their server. It also has an
autoresponder that sends a response that anything sent to that
account is considered spam and deleted, so I don't get many repeat
e-mails through it.

There are also (pay) services now that handle your e-mail. An
autoresponse is sent asking for a reply and logon at a website to
prove a human sent the mail, and it is deleted in 3/5/whatever days
if no response is made. If you do make a response, you are placed on
a whitelist and don't have to go through the process again. I know
of some folks who have set up a similar process using filters in
their e-mail clients - it could be done with Pegasus fairly easily.

ShadowWalker/Ron
--
"Information Superhighway is really an acronym for 'Interactive
Network For Organizing, Retrieving, Manipulating, Accessing And
Transferring Information On National Systems, Unleashing Practically
Every Rebellious Human Intelligence, Gratifying Hackers, Wiseacres,
And Yahoos'."
- Keven Kwaku

SPAM deleted at server -
Don't bother sending it 'cause I ain't gonna see it.
Scott
2004-05-12 14:03:51 UTC
Permalink
Sadly when you call/email tech support, they'll tell you everything's fine.
I know there's a lot of discussion on the board re: whether fuse
should/should not filter out msgs. For me though, I'll continue to plead
that if this "feature" is advertised as a benefit of the service, then they
have the responsiblity to deliver on the product.

I'm resorting to using a hotmail address myself and deleting my email
address that I've used for 5 years. This filtering system has been a
disappointment. When it's active, it works well for me. When it's not, I
get a ton of spam.
Post by tpd
Is anyone happy with Fuse spam filtering? Today I had 95 emails in my
inbox. Once I deleted the obvious spam via WebMail I had 54 legit
messages. The junk was very easy to identify at a glance as spam.
There must be a better way to keep this stuff off the users machines.
I have found an excellent, free (open source?) spam filter called K9.
It just marks the subject line as spam which lets you set up a filter
and a spam folder. I have been running it for a couple of months an I'm
up to 94.7% accuracy and not one false positive. Not too bad if you
must filter on the client side. And it works with Thunderbird unlike
many of the Outlook/Outlook Express focused products.
Get K9 at: http://keir.net/k9.html
Why can't Fuse and BrightMail come close? Are they that afraid of false
positives?
Cheers-
Tom
JWP
2004-05-12 15:21:29 UTC
Permalink
It is my opinion that one set of filters that is supposed to serve the
needs of everyone will never work. If you set them strict enough that NO
spam gets through, someone will have legitimate emails deleted without any
knowledge of the action having taken place. If you set them so that they are
not real strict, people consider them to be a disappointment.

As an example, I get a lot of spam from over seas pharmacies, mortgage
lenders and other such sites. Now suppose you worked for a bank, apply for a
new mortgage or used your insurance companies mail order drug program. In
order to filter out the spam I get a lot of, you would need to search the
heeder and body of the email for the name of common drugs if not all drugs
or any reference to loans an mortgages and kill them all. Now any person
that got an email that referenced their application to refinancing there
home or their prescription refill for medications like lipitor or other
prescription medication orders from their mail order prescription service
would run the risk of never getting the message, bill or reminder and have
no way to control what would or would not be allowed through the filter.
That is just for 2 types of messages and I believe you could think of other
areas that legitimate emails could and would be filtered out as spam if the
filters are designed to serve everyone in every possible situation.

The simple fact is everyone needs to have customized spam filters that
meet their needs and not the needs of the person across the street or across
town. The only way I see this happening is if we have the ability to
customize the filters used to our own needs and have them running on our own
systems.

JWP
Post by Scott
Sadly when you call/email tech support, they'll tell you everything's fine.
I know there's a lot of discussion on the board re: whether fuse
should/should not filter out msgs. For me though, I'll continue to plead
that if this "feature" is advertised as a benefit of the service, then they
have the responsiblity to deliver on the product.
I'm resorting to using a hotmail address myself and deleting my email
address that I've used for 5 years. This filtering system has been a
disappointment. When it's active, it works well for me. When it's not, I
get a ton of spam.
Post by tpd
Is anyone happy with Fuse spam filtering? Today I had 95 emails in my
inbox. Once I deleted the obvious spam via WebMail I had 54 legit
messages. The junk was very easy to identify at a glance as spam.
There must be a better way to keep this stuff off the users machines.
I have found an excellent, free (open source?) spam filter called K9.
It just marks the subject line as spam which lets you set up a filter
and a spam folder. I have been running it for a couple of months an I'm
up to 94.7% accuracy and not one false positive. Not too bad if you
must filter on the client side. And it works with Thunderbird unlike
many of the Outlook/Outlook Express focused products.
Get K9 at: http://keir.net/k9.html
Why can't Fuse and BrightMail come close? Are they that afraid of false
positives?
Cheers-
Tom
Viper
2004-05-12 15:25:21 UTC
Permalink
I have had trouble with fuse receiving e-mail from my friends. My friends
are on Insight BB and they try to e-mail me to my fuse address and I never
get it. I can send them e-mail but I get none from them. When my friends
send me an e-mail on one day they get a return message a few days later
saying that fuse can not be reached. This happens all the time. I can send
and receive e-mail from news letter I signed up for just fine. I called fuse
a few times about this and they keep telling me that every thing is fine on
there end it has to be with Insight BB. My friends have called Insight BB
and they are told that every thing is fine on there end to. Now that fuse
has dropped the spam filtering I can receive there messages. Now that fuse
has dropped the filtering I receive TONS of SPAM!!!!!!! I think that it is
funny that fuse will and dose not admit to there problems. What a way to run
a business. !!!!????!!!!???
Post by Scott
Sadly when you call/email tech support, they'll tell you everything's fine.
I know there's a lot of discussion on the board re: whether fuse
should/should not filter out msgs. For me though, I'll continue to plead
that if this "feature" is advertised as a benefit of the service, then they
have the responsiblity to deliver on the product.
I'm resorting to using a hotmail address myself and deleting my email
address that I've used for 5 years. This filtering system has been a
disappointment. When it's active, it works well for me. When it's not, I
get a ton of spam.
Post by tpd
Is anyone happy with Fuse spam filtering? Today I had 95 emails in my
inbox. Once I deleted the obvious spam via WebMail I had 54 legit
messages. The junk was very easy to identify at a glance as spam.
There must be a better way to keep this stuff off the users machines.
I have found an excellent, free (open source?) spam filter called K9.
It just marks the subject line as spam which lets you set up a filter
and a spam folder. I have been running it for a couple of months an I'm
up to 94.7% accuracy and not one false positive. Not too bad if you
must filter on the client side. And it works with Thunderbird unlike
many of the Outlook/Outlook Express focused products.
Get K9 at: http://keir.net/k9.html
Why can't Fuse and BrightMail come close? Are they that afraid of false
positives?
Cheers-
Tom
JWP
2004-05-12 16:56:25 UTC
Permalink
Mr. Viper

Where did you hear that Fuse has dropped the spam filtering. Their web
page at
http://www.cincinnatibell.com/residential/internet/fuse/?id=fuse_emailprotect
indicated the spam filters are still in place. All I am aware of being
removed is the "filtered mail folder" on the Web Mail page. The only thing
that this changed is that you can no longer go to the Web Mail page and see
what messages have been filtered out of your inbox and the ability we used
to have to recover any that were miss identified as spam. The filters should
still in place and running most of the time.

I can't think of any reason that removing the filtered mail directory
from the web mail page would allow you to receive email from your friends
now and not before. The only thing I can think of is that Fuse may have
updated their "blocked service list of open relays" and Insight BB may have
been on the list in the past but was removed from the list before fuse did
their last update. I really don't know if Fuse uses this type of black list
but since they have blocked all SMTP traffic to other mail servers it may be
a possibility that they do in an attempt to try and control the spread of
viruses.

JWP
Post by Viper
I have had trouble with fuse receiving e-mail from my friends. My friends
are on Insight BB and they try to e-mail me to my fuse address and I never
get it. I can send them e-mail but I get none from them. When my friends
send me an e-mail on one day they get a return message a few days later
saying that fuse can not be reached. This happens all the time. I can send
and receive e-mail from news letter I signed up for just fine. I called fuse
a few times about this and they keep telling me that every thing is fine on
there end it has to be with Insight BB. My friends have called Insight BB
and they are told that every thing is fine on there end to. Now that fuse
has dropped the spam filtering I can receive there messages. Now that fuse
has dropped the filtering I receive TONS of SPAM!!!!!!! I think that it is
funny that fuse will and dose not admit to there problems. What a way to run
a business. !!!!????!!!!???
Post by Scott
Sadly when you call/email tech support, they'll tell you everything's
fine.
Post by Scott
I know there's a lot of discussion on the board re: whether fuse
should/should not filter out msgs. For me though, I'll continue to plead
that if this "feature" is advertised as a benefit of the service, then
they
Post by Scott
have the responsiblity to deliver on the product.
I'm resorting to using a hotmail address myself and deleting my email
address that I've used for 5 years. This filtering system has been a
disappointment. When it's active, it works well for me. When it's not, I
get a ton of spam.
Post by tpd
Is anyone happy with Fuse spam filtering? Today I had 95 emails in my
inbox. Once I deleted the obvious spam via WebMail I had 54 legit
messages. The junk was very easy to identify at a glance as spam.
There must be a better way to keep this stuff off the users machines.
I have found an excellent, free (open source?) spam filter called K9.
It just marks the subject line as spam which lets you set up a filter
and a spam folder. I have been running it for a couple of months an I'm
up to 94.7% accuracy and not one false positive. Not too bad if you
must filter on the client side. And it works with Thunderbird unlike
many of the Outlook/Outlook Express focused products.
Get K9 at: http://keir.net/k9.html
Why can't Fuse and BrightMail come close? Are they that afraid of false
positives?
Cheers-
Tom
Viper
2004-05-13 18:28:29 UTC
Permalink
How can Fuse block SMTP? I can send e-mail out and I know SMTP is for
sending out e-mail. Could you explain please?
JWP
2004-05-14 08:27:27 UTC
Permalink
Post by Viper
How can Fuse block SMTP? I can send e-mail out and I know SMTP is for
sending out e-mail. Could you explain please?
Mr Viper

I should have been more spcific in my statement. If you have a email
account on another system such as netzero.net or hotpop.com or your
employer's mail server and use a pop3 email program you can connect to the
server and receive any messages from that server. If you try to send any
messages through that account however, they will be blocked if you connect
to the server through zoomtown or fuse. To use a program such as Outlook in
a way that will function you must set up that account so that any messages
sent go through the Fuse SMTP server.

Example:

I have a netzero account that I used to use as a backup if Fuse or it's mail
server have a problem and stop working. To send and receive email with the
netzero account, you are told to set the incoming server to pop.netzero.net
and the outgoing server to smtp.netzero.net in your email program. This will
work for down loading your messages from netzero however if you try to send
any email using these settings you will not be allowed to connect to
smtp.netzero.net.

In order to send and receive messages from that account you must set the
incoming server to pop.netzero.net and set the outgoing server to
smtp.fuse.net in your email program because ALL SMTP servers other than
smtp.fuse.net and smtp.zoomtown.com are blocked.

This was announced by Zoomtown last August but was unable to find it on
their home page now but I did find where it was talked about in a previous
post to this group.


----------------------------------------------------------------------------



- Posted August 20, 2003.
Notice for all Fuse and ZoomTown with Fuse as their affiliated ISP customers
using their PC as a mail server:

NOTE: DDSL Static IP customers are not affected.

As a result of the rampant email-based virus and worm activity that has
occurred over the past few weeks, Cincinnati Bell Engineering is blocking
individual computers from sending email directly to the Internet without
first relaying their email through the Fuse/ZoomTown email server
(smtp.fuse.net/smtp.zoomtown.com).

What does this mean?

Please understand that this does not mean that you cannot send email, this
means that your machine will be blocked from becoming a SPAM open relay
should your computer become infected by a virus such as w32.sobig or
w32.squirm, etc. Most customer using Fuse or ZoomTown WebMail, Outlook
Express, Outlook and other such clients are not likely to be affected by
this block. Customers who have set up their computers as a Mail server are
the ones affected.

If you are uncertain if your computer is set up to send email directly to
the Internet, follow the instructions below:


1.. Open your email client e.g., Outlook, Outlook Express, Eudora.
2.. Go to Account Settings.
3.. In the SMTP(outgoing mail server area, verify the following:
a.. If the SMTP setting is smtp.fuse.net or smtp.zoomtown.com, then your
computer is configured to use the Fuse or ZoomTown mail servers and this
block does NOT apply to you.
b.. If the SMTP setting is different than smtp.fuse.net or
smtp.zoomtown.com, then your computer is relaying through a different mail
server and will no longer be able to send mail directly to the Internet. In
order to send mail, you must restore your SMTP server to either the Fuse or
ZoomTown SMTP server. To do this, please contact the individual who
initially configured your system.
NOTE: Most ZoomTown and Fuse customers will not be affected by this issue
and will not need to change any settings. Your default settings as they are
installed when you purchase Fuse or ZoomTown use the normal SMTP settings.

ZoomTown and Fuse are committed to helping you protect your valuable
information on your computer and we apologize for any inconvenience this may
cause.

We will continue to post additional information regarding this worm as it
becomes available.

Regards,

Your Fuse and ZoomTown Technical Support Team
Post by Viper
Does anybody know off the top of their head if outbound port 25 is
blocked such that only smtp.fuse.net is allowed for SMTP outgoing mail?
I'm positive that the SMTP server that I use for most of my school
e-mail is not an open-relay SMTP server, as I could only send mail to
recipients on that server when I had dial-up access from fuse, but now
it seems as if I'm getting a connection refused error despite the fact
that I'm sure the server is up, and the firewall on that end is
accepting inbound SMTP.
If it is the case that outbound SMTP is blocked, am I correct in
assuming that there's probably less than a snowball's chance in hell
that this restriction will ever be lifted?
Thanks,
John Muller
Rhonda D
2004-05-16 20:50:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by tpd
Is anyone happy with Fuse spam filtering? Today I had 95 emails in my
inbox. Once I deleted the obvious spam via WebMail I had 54 legit
messages. The junk was very easy to identify at a glance as spam.
There must be a better way to keep this stuff off the users machines.
I think the new spam filtering set-up stinks. Since they've removed the
filtered mail folder and tweeked whatever else, the number of spam emails I
receive has easily increased threefold. I emailed Fuse, asking what good
reporting the spam has done and that they should bring back the filtered
mail folder. Their response was full of excuses about the rise in spam
overall and that everything was working as it should. Uh huh. Funny,
these type emails don't even make it to my Bulk Mail folder in my Yahoo mail
addy.
Boz
2004-05-17 03:20:43 UTC
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I had some legitimate e-mail blocked by the Fuse spam guard, yet I seem to
get plenty of message willing to sell me drugs, stocks, or enhanced body
parts. I sent a nastygram to ***@fuse.net and ***@fuse.net
complaining about the filtered mail removal and they reinstated my filtered
mail folder in a couple days. FWIW, I haven't seem any legitimate e-mail in
the filtered mail folder, but there's been plenty of spam in the in-box.

Any recommendations for a free/low cost spam filter for outlook express?

Thanks,
Boz
Post by Rhonda D
Post by tpd
Is anyone happy with Fuse spam filtering? Today I had 95 emails in my
inbox. Once I deleted the obvious spam via WebMail I had 54 legit
messages. The junk was very easy to identify at a glance as spam.
There must be a better way to keep this stuff off the users machines.
I think the new spam filtering set-up stinks. Since they've removed the
filtered mail folder and tweeked whatever else, the number of spam emails I
receive has easily increased threefold. I emailed Fuse, asking what good
reporting the spam has done and that they should bring back the filtered
mail folder. Their response was full of excuses about the rise in spam
overall and that everything was working as it should. Uh huh. Funny,
these type emails don't even make it to my Bulk Mail folder in my Yahoo mail
addy.
ShadowWalker
2004-05-17 08:51:41 UTC
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Boz softly, enticingly, whispered to the electronic winds these
Post by Boz
I had some legitimate e-mail blocked by the Fuse spam guard, yet I
seem to get plenty of message willing to sell me drugs, stocks, or
they reinstated my filtered mail folder in a couple days. FWIW, I
haven't seem any legitimate e-mail in the filtered mail folder,
but there's been plenty of spam in the in-box.
Any recommendations for a free/low cost spam filter for outlook express?
Thanks,
Boz
http://spambayes.sourceforge.net/windows.html

Recommended by Leo LaPorte on Screensavers. Free, multiplatform,
intelligent. Supossedly works without trouble on OE. I haven't tried
it since using it with other clients is more involved.


ShadowWalker/Ron
--
"Information Superhighway is really an acronym for 'Interactive
Network For Organizing, Retrieving, Manipulating, Accessing And
Transferring Information On National Systems, Unleashing Practically
Every Rebellious Human Intelligence, Gratifying Hackers, Wiseacres,
And Yahoos'."
- Keven Kwaku

SPAM deleted at server -
Don't bother sending it 'cause I ain't gonna see it.
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